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[Clear Eyes]

http://www.meguiar.addr.com/Destruction_of_US.htm

[Susan]

I don't believe that the US is Babylon

[The Troll]

What nation do you think is Babylon Susan?

[Susan]

I don't believe it's a nation, I think it's an attitude.

[The Troll]

Well, I think the US could be Babylon.

I'm not sure the Bible differentiates it as an attitude...

[Susan]

That's just my opinion. It doesn't make sense to me any other way.

[Susan]

A parabolic parallel.

yes, thank you, exactly

edited to add

it's not a place it's a things, it's an attitude

[The Troll]

Interpreting Bible prophecy can get pretty convoluted.

There is Mystery Bablyon.

There is the Beast.

There is the Anti-Christ.

There is the Whore that rides the Beast.

And There is the False Prophet.

OK, I think the False Prophet is probably the Catholic Pope, or at least the Man of Perdition. My reasoning is "that he will seek to change the times and the laws."

So, the church is usually refered to as a woman, so I have to conclude that the Whore is the Catholic Church.

I also believe the Beast is the world system.

Exactly how the US fits in as the Prophetic Babylon to me is because it is the center for the current world system.

Of course, nothing is written in stone...

Maybe CE has her own thoughts on the subject.

[Clear Eyes]

Mystery Babylon will be destroyed and the ships will stand afar off and mourn their burning because no one buys their merchandise any more.

The US is the world's largest consumer, and the world will mourn their loss of profits.

Revelation 18:11 explains it very well.

It most definitely is a physical place and the US is the only nation that fits the description as Mystery Babylon.

[The Troll]

A parabolic parallel.

yes, thank you, exactly

edited to add

it's not a place it's a things, it's an attitude

Actually, as in many things in God's creation there are fractaled levels/concepts of the original, exampling themselves in flesh/physical, as well as in spirit.


So I think it's both a physical Bablyon as well as a spiritual Babylon....

I don't think the answers are in airey-fairey convoluted twist of facts and history...

[Clear Eyes]

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Babylon is a rich and economically prosperous country (Jeremiah 50:37, 51:13, Revelation 18:3, 19).
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Babylon is a land of "mixed/mingled people" (Jeremiah 50:37).
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Babylon is a world military power (Jeremiah 51:53).
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Babylon is a land that sits among many waters (Jeremiah 51:13).
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Babylon is a country that has a heritage in the Elohim of Israel but has sinned and has turned from the Jah (Jeremiah 50:11, 14, 24, 29, 38, 51:7).
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The Elohim of Israel would have healed the land of Babylon if she would have repented but she will not repent (II Chronicles 7:14, Jeremiah 51:8-9).
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The good news of Messiah is going forth from the land of Babylon but it will be "cut off" in "the time of harvest" which is the end of the age (Jeremiah 50:16).
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Babylon is a country that does not believe that it will experience the wrath and judgment of Yhweh (be a widow) (Isaiah 47:5, 7-10, Revelation 18:7-8).
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The attacking power against Babylon is from "the north COUNTRY" (Jeremiah 50:3, 9, 26, 41, 51:48).
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Babylon is destroyed by extremely accurate arrows (missiles) and the attack is devastating (Jeremiah 50:9, 14, 29, 42, 51:3, 11).
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A fire is kindled in the cities of Babylon from the accurate arrows (missiles) (Jeremiah 50:32, Revelation 18:8).
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Babylon will be destroyed in the way that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed (Isaiah 13:19, Jeremiah 50:40).
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When Babylon is destroyed, it will never be inhabited again (Isaiah 13:19-20, Jeremiah 50:3, 13, 26, 39-40, 51:2-3, 26, 29, 37, 43, 63-64).
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The nations of the world tremble and shake in fear at the defeat of Babylon (Jeremiah 50:46, Revelation 18:9-10).
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The house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) who live in Babylon are called to flee from Babylon and go to Zion (Isaiah 13:14, Jeremiah 50:4-5, 16-19, 28, 33, 51:9, 45, Revelation 18:4).
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When Babylon is destroyed, the sins of the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) will be pardoned (the exile will be over and the house of Judah and the house of Israel will be restored) (Jeremiah 50:20).
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When the house of Judah (Judaism) and the house of Israel (Christianity) flees the land of Babylon to go to "Zion", they will enter into an ETERNAL covenant that will not be forgotten (Jeremiah 50:4-5 = Ezekiel 37:26-27).