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Posted 21 May 2008 - 01:26 PM

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 03:16 PM

VF--I DO see a bit of a tail developing.
It'll grow I think.

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 03:31 PM



Is it that burning mountain that will strike Earth?
I'm happy I'm not judgmental like all you smug, superficial idiots.

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 04:45 PM

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 08:09 PM

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Garabandal?


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The Prophecies

The relatively few messages of Garabandal contain prophesies of supernatural events that will affect the entire world. In addition, the visionaries claimed that they were given a series of frightening warnings about the future. Each of the girls stated that Mary told them about a series of four extraordinary events which would reflect God's concern for the state to which humanity had fallen. These events were reported to be:

A worldwide warning to be experienced by everyone on earth. Its purpose will be to call humanity to amend its behavior and return to God.

A great miracle that will occur in the late winter or early spring within one year after the warning.

Permanent signs that will remain for all time at a pine grove near Garabandal and other selected locations of Marian apparitions.

A terrible chastisement during which many will die. Other prophecies indicate that this chastisement will eliminate up to two-thirds of humanity. The chastisement depends upon the response of humanity to the warning and the miracle.

The Warning

Conchita has stated, "The Warning, like the Chastisement, is a fearful thing for the good as well as the wicked. It will draw the good closer to God and warn the wicked that the end of times are coming."

In describing the warning, Jacinta has said, "The Warning is something that is seen in the air, everywhere in the world and is immediately transmitted into the interior of our souls. It will last a very little time, but it will seem a very long time because of its effect within us. It would be like fire. It will not burn our flesh, but we will feel it bodily and interiorly."

She goes on to describe astronomical phenomena: "like two stars -- that crash and make a lot of noise, and a lot of light -- but they don't fall. It's not going to hurt us but we're going to see it and, in that moment, we're going to see our consciences."



An image of the Virgin Mary as seen by the seers at Garabandal.

The Chastisement

During July of 1962, Conchita, Mari-Loli and Jacinta were shown a vision of the impending chastisement. Our Lady told the visionaries that, if we do not heed her warnings and mankind does not change after the warning and miracle, God will send the chastisement. In describing the vision Mari-Loli said:

"It would be worse than having fire on top of us - fire underneath us and fire all around us. She saw people throwing themselves into the sea, but instead of putting the fire out it seemed to make them burn more."

In a note written by Conchita she states,
"The punishment is conditional upon whether or not mankind heeds the messages of the Blessed Virgin Mary."

Also she writes in her diary,
"If the world changes, the chastisement can be averted."
http://www.garabandal.org/info/apartns.shtml


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I am getting a very strong feeling, visions, dreams to focus on this...
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A connection about the prophecies of Garabandal


The Secrets of Medjugorje and Garabandal Revealed - a set of articles giving the dates and events of the secrets.

The Virgin Mary has appeared, in a true private revelation, to four children of Garabandal. They were told secrets about the future, which are usually summarized as: The Warning, The Miracle, and The Punishment. I am writing this page to correct some false things that have been said about these secrets.

It is not true that the Miracle will happen within 12 months of the Warning. These two events will occur more than 12 months apart.

The Virgin Mary said that the Miracle will occur on the feast day of a martyr of the Eucharist, on a Thursday, coinciding with an event in the Church. It is possible to figure out the date of the Miracle from this information.

Conchita said: "It will happen between the months of February and July and it will be between the 7th and the 17th, but I will not tell you which year." This statement by Conchita about the Miracle is entirely correct.

Some have claimed that they know the month of the Miracle, but not the day. They are mistaken. Their reasons for narrowing the date to one month is based on misunderstandings and false assumptions.

The idea that the Chastisement (or punishment) can be completely averted by conversion and prayer is incorrect. The idea that the Chastisement can be mitigated by prayer is more or less correct, but only from a human point of view. From our point of view within Time, it seems that future events are altered by God in answer to our prayers. This is true, from our point of view within Time. But God is present throughout all Time and beyond Time. To God, past, present, and future are the same. From God's point of view, the future does not change in answer to our prayers. Rather, God has already taken all prayers throughout Time into account in His plan for future events. Our prayers are effective even beyond the limits of Time because God is beyond all limits.

Note added August 21, 2005:

It is said that, after Pope John 23rd, there would be only three more Popes before the events predicted at Garabandal would begin. This is true, but often misunderstood. It does not mean that there will be only three more Popes ever. After John 23, there was Paul 6, John Paul 1 and John Paul 2. Therefore, the events predicted at Garabandal will begin during the reign of the current Pope: Benedict 16.

The Warning will occur during the reign of Pope Benedict 16.
Also, the Miracle will occur more than a year, but less than a year and a half, after the Warning.

Of course, Pope Benedict 16 is not the last Pope. There will be many more Popes after him. The events predicted at Garabandal begin during his reign, but they continue into the reign of subsequent Popes.

Note added August 25, 2005:

Some extraordinary events that occur soon after the Warning are not that particular Miracle called 'the Miracle'.

The Chastisement will occur many years after the Miracle.

Note added December 20, 2005:

It is said that the Miracle will coincide with an event in the Church, one that has happened a few times in the past, but not since Conchita was born (she was born in 1949).


-- by Ronald L. Conte Jr.

http://www.catholicplanet.com/articles/garabandal.htm
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What would burn people from the sky...that even running into water(sea)...they still are burning?
hmm?
I think I have it...X-RAYS ...(combined) with a poisonous elements(gas)...like CN(Cyanogen)
Pope Benedict is pope...(also the keeper of the 3rd secret of Fatima)...
All other prophecy write about fire from the sky...
I don't see any other comet...or BIG object near by...
We had two comets exploded(Outbrust) recently...
Comet Holmes 17P showed me(revealed) many images of a Angel-figure...like a portal was opened, and out of it came out a angel-figure coming this way...
brb...
oh...the visions occured mostly around June,July and August...this is when 2007 W1 will be very close, and who knows what else?
It is green...
It is coming in close...
still no tail...
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This chart describes what might occur if we get strayed...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...al-warming.html
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Posted 21 May 2008 - 08:17 PM

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Posted 21 May 2008 - 08:21 PM

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Posted 22 May 2008 - 09:49 PM

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Is it that burning mountain that will strike Earth?


I don't know ., but we never know.
I am doing my best to reveal this, or try too...
CE, you remember after 911... Homeland security told people to get duct tape and plastic, so in order to cover up windows and doors in case of an attack with bio,etc...

I think it would be a good idea to re-check-inventory-of those items...



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Posted 23 May 2008 - 01:22 AM

Hi Vet/Father.

I didn't want you to think I have forgotten to help.

From http://cfa-www.harvard.edu/iau/Ephemerides...ets/2007W1.html comes this:

The following orbital elements are taken from MPC 62271:

C/2007 W1 (Boattini)
Epoch 2008 June 23.0 TT = JDT 2454640.5
T 2008 June 24.8863 TT MPC
q 0.849658 (2000.0) P Q
z -0.000212 Peri. 306.5542 +0.1972807 +0.9775597
+/-0.000005 Node 334.5238 -0.8356216 +0.1282730
e 1.000180 Incl. 9.8893 -0.5126567 +0.1671019
From 344 observations 2007 Nov. 20-2008 Mar. 16, mean residual 0".6.

Elements are also available for the current standard epoch:

C/2007 W1 (Boattini)
Epoch 2008 May 14.0 TT = JDT 2454600.5
T 2008 June 24.8880 TT MPC
q 0.849650 (2000.0) P Q
z -0.000161 Peri. 306.5504 +0.1973249 +0.9775522
+/-0.000005 Node 334.5303 -0.8356104 +0.1283190
e 1.000137 Incl. 9.8892 -0.5126579 +0.1671107

Ephemeris
The following ephemeris is at intervals of five days. A daily ephemeris covering the same time interval is also available.Personalized ephemerides for this (and other) objects may be generated using the Minor Planet & Comet Ephemeris Service.

Recent magnitude estimates for this comet (as reported to the ICQ) may be available.

Date TT R. A. (2000) Decl. Delta r Elong. Phase m1 m2

WARNING!

This comet gets close to the sun during the period covered in the ephemeris below. Observers are warned to be wary of observing comets near the sun. NEVER point any kind of optical instrument at the sun--instant blindness will be the probable result.

2008 05 14 09 59.42 -23 29.6 0.326 1.140 105.1 58.9 7.6
2008 05 19 09 34.58 -24 17.2 0.297 1.084 95.9 68.2 7.2
2008 05 24 09 05.52 -25 00.1 0.271 1.031 86.3 78.5 6.8
2008 05 29 08 30.54 -25 25.5 0.247 0.983 76.0 89.9 6.4
2008 06 03 07 48.14 -25 08.6 0.228 0.941 65.0 102.3 6.0
2008 06 08 06 58.46 -23 34.1 0.214 0.906 53.9 115.1 5.7
2008 06 13 06 05.03 -20 13.3 0.210 0.878 44.4 125.9 5.5
2008 06 18 05 14.43 -15 16.2 0.218 0.859 39.5 131.2 5.5
2008 06 23 04 32.34 -09 36.3 0.236 0.850 40.4 129.2 5.7
2008 06 28 04 00.59 -04 08.7 0.265 0.852 45.3 121.9 5.9

The website of Seiichi Yoshida of japan at http://www.aerith.net/comet/catalog/2007W1/2007W1.html has very good star maps: it is worth the look.

Orbital Elements

Epoch 2008 June 23.0 TT = JDT 2454640.5
T 2008 June 24.88234 TT MPC
q 0.8495906 (2000.0) P Q
z -0.0002036 Peri. 306.55717 +0.19732512 +0.97755073
+/-0.0000125 Node 334.52352 -0.83561676 +0.12831130
e 1.0001730 Incl. 9.88923 -0.51264747 +0.16712507

an excellent photo from May 3rd can be found here: http://www.iceinspace.com.au/mygallery/dis...ge.php?pos=-693


more from: http://www.astronomytoday.com/blog/comet-boattini-c2007-w1/

Posted by Lydia on May 17th,

Our Southern Hemisphere observers have an opportunity to view tailless Comet Boattini (C/2007 W1), discovered last November, located low in the western sky in the constellation of Hydra. However, next week will provide a better view in a moonless sky

Do not confuse this comet with another fainter Comet Boattini in Vulpecula ( C/2008 J1).

Boattini (C/2007 W1) will pass through Canus Major from June 6 through the 16th.

It enters the morning sky on June 15th, and will reach perihelion on June 24, 2008, only 0.85 a.u. from the Sun (0.24 a.u. from Earth). This comet will become visible to Northern Hemisphere observers in July where we will be able to locate it in Cetus at an 8th magnitude observing target.

From http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/lists/CloseApp.html a list of known close approaches to Earth:

Object (and name) Date of encounter (TT) Distance Orbit arc Reference Object(and name)
JD Calendar (AU)

2008 JM26 2454587.81 2008 May 1.31 0.02701 1-opposition, arc = 1 days E2008-J73 2008 JM26
2008 HK 2454588.37 2008 May 1.87 0.08651 1-opposition, arc = 13 days E2008-J57 2008 HK
2008 HJ3 2454589.42 2008 May 2.92 0.06613 1-opposition, arc = 11 days E2008-K26 2008 HJ3
2008 HB2 2454590.08 2008 May 3.58 0.04574 1-opposition, arc = 11 days E2008-J48 2008 HB2
2008 HE2 2454590.25 2008 May 3.75 0.08885 1-opposition, arc = 11 days E2008-J48 2008 HE2
2001 HL31 2454591.91 2008 May 5.41 0.1050 1-opposition, arc = 9 days MPO 1 2001 HL31
2008 HG 2454592.29 2008 May 5.79 0.04265 1-opposition, arc = 19 days E2008-K01 2008 HG
2008 JR14 2454593.19 2008 May 6.69 0.04419 1-opposition, arc = 13 days E2008-K26 2008 JR14
2008 JP24 2454593.57 2008 May 7.07 0.007369 1-opposition, arc = 3 days E2008-J70 2008 JP24
2008 JE 2454593.82 2008 May 7.32 0.03343 1-opposition, arc = 7 days E2008-J48 2008 JE
2008 HD2 2454595.71 2008 May 9.21 0.01661 1-opposition, arc = 7 days E2008-J38 2008 HD2
2008 HX1 2454596.02 2008 May 9.52 0.06423 1-opposition, arc = 2 days E2008-H48 2008 HX1
2008 DE 2454596.34 2008 May 9.84 0.04316 1-opposition, arc = 89 days E2008-J70 2008 DE
2008 JL24 2454596.56 2008 May 10.06 0.001152 1-opposition, arc = 5 days E2008-K26 2008 JL24
2008 HR3 2454598.18 2008 May 11.68 0.007849 1-opposition, arc = 10 days E2008-K26 2008 HR3
2008 HS3 2454602.92 2008 May 16.42 0.05486 1-opposition, arc = 21 days E2008-K26 2008 HS3
2008 GR3 2454607.43 2008 May 20.93 0.05090 1-opposition, arc = 42 days E2008-K26 2008 GR3
2008 JU2 454607.69 2008 May 21.19 0.06288 1-opposition, arc = 17 days E2008-K26 2008 JU2
2008 JS26 2454626.46 2008 June 8.96 0.05951 1-opposition, arc = 7 days E2008-K26 2008 JS26
2008 GO20 2454637.86 2008 June 20.36 0.05179 1-opposition, arc = 40 days E2008-K26 2008 GO20
(17182) 1999 VU 2454646.51 2008 June 29.01 0.1670 3 oppositions, 1977-2000 MPO 3 (17182) 1999 VU
2000 SZ162 2454646.69 2008 June 29.19 0.1394 1-opposition, arc = 8 days MPO 2000 SZ162
2002 AZ1 2454655.79 2008 July 8.29 0.02314 1-opposition, arc = 35 days MPO 2 2002 AZ1
(90403) 2003 YE45 2454660.89 2008 July 13.39 0.04244 4 oppositions, 1989-2004 MPO 6 (90403) 2003 YE45
2008 BT18 2454662.12 2008 July 14.62 0.01508 3 oppositions, 1955-2008 E2008-J67 2008 BT18
(90367) 2003 LC5 2454662.69 2008 July 15.19 0.1585 4 oppositions, 1983-2004 MPO 6 (90367) 2003 LC5
2005 RC34 2454669.07 2008 July 21.57 0.03741 2 oppositions, 2005-2008 E2008-J34 2005 RC34
2002 CZ9 2454671.52 2008 July 24.02 0.1272 4 oppositions, 2002-2005 E2007-F91 2002 CZ9



This final site is not intended for public viewing, but may help you:

http://www.lesia.obspm.fr/planeto/cometes/...BT/indexbt.html




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Posted 23 May 2008 - 09:39 AM

QUOTE(Vet/Father @ May 9 2008, 12:27 AM) View Post
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hmm. Pretty big difference.


big difference...
We still have @ 29 days to go...
Still no tail observed as of yet...

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Definition/Description for SBDB Parameter/Field
Title: Earth MOID

Description: Earth MOID (Minimum Orbit Intersection Distance)

AS Of today... 0.0176002 au
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5/5...BAA data...The miss distance for the orbits is 0.0178 AU and the earth passes this point 27.5 days later. Maximum is likely on August 21.9 or 27.5, with a radiant of 168 -15.
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5/8....0.0176002 AU
5/5....0.0178 AU
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But 3D orbit shows different numbers...

which one is correct????
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New numbers...from 3D orbit...
WAS 0.214 au...closest...now 5/8/08...at 0.211au...closest...
-0.003 au...in a couple of days...not much, but still fact to the matter is...just got alittle closer...

WE need more eyes, telescopes on this comet...and better close-ups in the days to come...



5/22/08....0.0173553 AU

-0.0005+ au, since 5/5/08
0.21au now..

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 09:40 AM



Is this comet going to slam into Earth or flyby so close it rocks like a boat?

TIA
I'm happy I'm not judgmental like all you smug, superficial idiots.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 09:46 AM

QUOTE(Clear Eyes @ May 23 2008, 10:55 AM) View Post
Is this comet going to slam into Earth or flyby so close it rocks like a boat?

TIA


The new numbers just provided shows ...the miss (min)distance is droping SLOWLY...
In other words...getting alittle more closer...
The moon is 88.8% full @and dropping each day...soon the green light...then we should get more newer images...
CE, I don't think it is going to hit directly, BUT...remember that exploded(Outbrust) a week or two ago...@...

Q.---> Did it change the trajectory ?
Q.---> Did a pc break off?
Q.---> How long is that tail?
Q.---> What is behind 2007 W1?

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What if this might be the Garabandal/Fatima/Mother Shipton/Revelation,etc..event?
All the clues written...seem to point to it...so far...
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Not a direct hit, but what if...if?...a couple of pc's already broke-off, and are traveling behind 2007 W1...slowly moving away..and more behind 2007 W1...if ..if...this happens...the farther those debris fall behind main body...they might...might?...hit Earth
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 09:52 AM

Thank You...Copperhead

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Something this BIG...and getting closer...must be pulling on our magnetic field lines in the southern hemisphere, and gravitational pull... like SMV9...with Jupiter...
2007W1...Have been effected by something for it to had encounter a outbrust SO CLOSE to earth...

brb..thanks again thumb.gif

which effects our inner core...results more EQs, and volcanoes acitivities, and charging our atmosphere with ___? ionized...???..It would be cool/good to see if this comet is emitting X-rays like others did...

This is the closest comet to Earth...and I bet you...they(NASA)with the x-ray telescope in orbit (C__)forgot name scratchinghead.gif ..looked at it..., but won't release data...like they do alot

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Loc: NE Ohio Re: Comet C/2007 W1 (Boattini) - coming soon [Re: tboss70]
#2414213 - 05/23/08 12:14 AM ...



To All,

Now that the moon is getting out of the evening sky, give Boattini a peek. Recent observations coming in suggest it is now a bit brighter than 6th magnitude. For those around 40N, the comet will be about 10 degrees above the horizon at the end of twilight, dropping down to around 5 degrees by May 27. The comet will then become visible only in the southern hemisphere, before re-emerging in morning twilight by the second week in July.

If I get any clear skies this upcoming Memorial Day weekend, I'll give it a shot.

Clear Skies,
Phil

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/sho...ll/fpart/3/vc/1

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cool image from spaceweather...today..of the Sun...
http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2008/22ma...7pcj3otr6dj4ca5
magnetic rain
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http://www.spaceweather.com
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In other news... Harvard STILL not updating on the biggest and closest COMET/Object near Earth..., since May 8th...

COMET C/2007 W1 (Boattini)
Total-magnitude and coma-diameter estimates (visual unless otherwise noted):
2008
May 8.81, 6.8, 25' (T. Scarmato, Calabria, Italy, 7x50 binoculars);
7.82, 7.0, 20' (T. Scarmato, Calabria, Italy, 20x90 binoculars);
6.84, 7.6, 17' (K. Hornoch, Vohancice, Czech Republic, 10x80 binoculars);
5.85, 7.5, 15' (K. Hornoch, Vohancice, Czech Republic, 10x80 binoculars);
5.10, 7.1, 20' (M. Goiato, Aracatuba, Brasil, 7x50 binoculars; clouds);

why did they stop ????
They are not the only ones that stop providing updates..., since May 6th...
http://www.aerith.net/comet/catalog/2007W1/2007W1.html
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ps... There is another object...traveling..asteroid...beside...Earth...heading...same direction as 2007W1 path...its 3-4 weeks behind intersection of W1...

Might not hit W1 main body...but if there are debris behind W1...then..???? maybe...crash

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The Longest Comet Tail ever recored, so far

Spacecraft Collides With Longest-Ever Comet Tail
By Maia Weinstock
Staff Writer
posted: 11:19 am ET
05 April 2000



Sometimes in science, little surprises can have great impacts. Just ask the astronomers who stumbled across a small blip in the data collected from the European Space Agency/NASA Ulysses spacecraft when it passed through supposedly empty space. The blip, it turns out, was the signature from an invisible comet tail, a comet tail that was more than 310.7 million miles (500 million kilometers) long -- almost double the longest comet tail previously known to exist.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/sola...ail_000405.html
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 10:45 AM

This image was taken @ Oct 31st, 2007 of Comet Holmes 17P(@110 million miles away)...when the Coma Dia arc was....


Was @ 10 Dia arc+...Central Coma... 2007 W1...reading of 25 DIA arc was taken when 2007 W1 was over 35 million miles away....so, please..take that into consideration... still HUGH!!!!
http://www.cloudbait.com/gallery/comet/holmes_size.gif

Note: That little Blue Ball on bottom right is Earth
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