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[Safe]

I suspect something dull.

[Chocolate Thunder]

Thanks for the excellent link and article


what they call Universal "Dark Flow",
that appears to be vectored to a multiversal source,
could easily be categorized as a Universal Fractal Energy Flow
towards a focalized Multiversal expansion.

Now consider a billion universes in a multiversal hive of universes.
Flow patterns of one universe associate and assimilate to the nearest higher energy fractal universal energy flow?

dunno

maybe

[Authentic Drama Queen]

Thanks for the excellent link and article


what they call Universal "Dark Flow",
that appears to be vectored to a multiversal source,
could easily be categorized as a Universal Fractal Energy Flow
towards a focalized Multiversal expansion.

Now consider a billion universes in a multiversal hive of universes.
Flow patterns of one universe associate and assimilate to the nearest higher energy fractal universal energy flow?

dunno

maybe

I read an Alan Dean Foster book based upon that exact premise about six months ago, and it was the first thing I thought of when I read the initial post on this thread.

[Trevor]

Thanks for the excellent link and article


what they call Universal "Dark Flow",
that appears to be vectored to a multiversal source,
could easily be categorized as a Universal Fractal Energy Flow
towards a focalized Multiversal expansion.

Now consider a billion universes in a multiversal hive of universes.
Flow patterns of one universe associate and assimilate to the nearest higher energy fractal universal energy flow?

dunno

maybe

WRONG!!

But that is the source of gravity out there.

[Chocolate Thunder]

thanks for the response ADQ.... .................... Trev remember gravity when you take a dump.




It is humorous how the state of astronomy physics science in it's inability to define the unknown,
merely placates itself by pronouncing the discovery of what it cannot see or define...
thus

Dark Matter
Dark Flow


this is almost comical.... notice the "Up Quark .... Down Quark.... Strange quark.."
Like a Dr Suess green eggs and hamsters galaxy

http://chandra.harvard.edu/photo/2002/0211...tration_300.jpg






In any case ...point being .... how many universes can one "fractally fit" or squeeze into a single quark?

there is no such thing as empty space and dark matter only exists because scientsist cannot see or quantify it


http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn12...quark-star.html
Was the brightest supernova the birth of a quark star?

But some physicists say that when matter is crushed to extreme densities, it settles into a soup of individual quarks.
A cubic centimetre of this new type of matter – dubbed 'strange' after one of the six types of quark –
would weigh as much as a billion tonnes and would have the unusual property of converting any ordinary matter that touches it into more strange matter,
releasing energy in the process

http://space.newscientist.com/data/images/...12514-1_600.jpg





http://www.rarf.riken.jp/lab/radiation/radiation2006.html
At RHIC QGP, Quark Gluon Plasma, should be created by colliding two gold nuclei,
through which we can study the state of early Universe just after the Big Bang.
Our recent discoveries are summarized in Nucl. Phys. A757: 184-283, 2005 which announces "formation of a new state of dense matter.".


http://www.rarf.riken.jp/lab/radiation/image5B4.JPG

[Chocolate Thunder]

http://www.bnl.gov/bnlweb/pubaf/pr/PR_display.asp?prID=05-38

But analysis of RHIC data from the start of operations in June 2000 through the 2003 physics run
reveals that the matter formed in RHIC's head-on collisions
of gold ions
is more like a liquid than a gas.

That evidence comes from measurements of unexpected patterns in the trajectories taken by the thousands of particles produced in individual collisions.

These measurements indicate that the primordial particles produced in the collisions
tend to move collectively in response to variations of pressure across the volume formed by the colliding nuclei.
Scientists refer to this phenomenon as "flow,"
since it is analogous to the properties of fluid motion.

One subset of calculations uses the methods of string theory to predict the viscosity of the liquid being created at RHIC
and to explain some of the other surprising findings.
Such studies will provide a more quantitative understanding of how "nearly perfect" the liquid is.

The Multiverse is an infinite ocean of universes ........

[Authentic Drama Queen]

Might be related to this:

Strange Portal Connects Earth to Sun

Magnetic Portals Connect Sun and Earth

[Chocolate Thunder]

Might be related to this:

Strange Portal Connects Earth to Sun

Magnetic Portals Connect Sun and Earth

cool articles

During the time it takes you to read this article, something will happen high overhead that until recently many scientists didn't believe in.
A magnetic portal will open, linking Earth to the sun 93 million miles away.

Tons of high-energy particles may flow through the opening before it closes again, around the time you reach the end of the page.

"It's called a flux transfer event or 'FTE,'" says space physicist David Sibeck of the Goddard Space Flight Center.

Notice the word ..."flow" .... as in liquidic in nature... as suggested in my last links posted

i.e.
The Solar Wind ... as well...
is
a fluid energy current. ....


and so our universe is in a vectored "flow" ...it is in the slipstream of fractal universes ...

cool stuff

gnite

[nineofone]

"Most" of it makes perfect sense and is very logical in theory. "As is above-so is below". We can gather a good bit of knowledge regarding universal workings from observing the world around us.

EVERYTHING IS IN MOTION! To stand still is to stagnate and leads to certain death. Look at the earthly examples of water to see this one fact. All this motion on earth is just a microcosm of the movements of a far grander scale in the universe and beyond. Our tides "ebb and flow", so do thewaters of the universe. Water follows gravity, expands/contracts according to temperature, even "dissappears" when turned into steam only to re-emerge as water after cooling.

The really incredible fact of this is that our bodies are largely water filled vessels. WATER is the key element for life in our part of the world. Most human bodies become sickly when their occupants allow them to stagnate in front of tv's, on bar stools, and in offices. We now have more disease and stagnation setting upon the human forms than ever before in our history! The doctors coin new words and chemists design new drugs, to define/treat what they believe to be illnesses,which are really nothing but matters of human stagnation. Our new "inside jobs" are not balanced by most with some form of daily physical activity. People have the FALSE belief that all the "mental excercies they perform with their intellects are good substitutes for lack of physical excercise when they are in fact, not. It's not gonna be pretty when the economy and other things influence the people to start becoming nomadic again, after all these years of stagnation. I pray that people will at the very least, get back to walking a couple miles each day. It will be well worth the effort very soon.

Yah, I know--thread drift huh? lol.

[Chocolate Thunder]

Herbertsmithite

http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns...4.200-1_290.jpg


http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19325954.200

The universe is a string-net liquid

In the experiment, electrons moving in the interface between two semiconductors behaved as though they were made up of particles with only a fraction of the electron's charge. This so-called fractional quantum hall effect (FQHE) suggested that electrons may not be elementary particles after all. However, it soon became clear that electrons under certain conditions can congregate in a way that gives them the illusion of having fractional charge - an explanation that earned Laughlin, Horst Störmer and Daniel Tsui the Nobel prize (New Scientist, 31 January 1998, p 36).

Wen suspected that the effect could be an example of a new type of matter. Different phases of matter are characterised by the way their atoms are organised. In a liquid, for instance, atoms are randomly distributed, whereas atoms in a solid are rigidly positioned in a lattice. FQHE systems are different. "If you take a snapshot of the position of electrons in an FQHE system they appear random and you think you have a liquid," says Wen. But step back, and you see that, unlike in a liquid, the electrons dance around each other in well-defined steps

It is as if the electrons are entangled. Today, physicists use the term to describe a property in quantum mechanics in which particles can be linked despite being separated by great distances. Wen speculated that FQHE systems represented a state of matter in which entanglement was an intrinsic property, with particles tied to each other in a complicated manner across the entire material.

This led Wen and Levin to the idea that there may be a different way of thinking about matter. What if electrons were not really elementary, but were formed at the ends of long "strings" of other, fundamental particles? They formulated a model in which such strings are free to move "like noodles in a soup" and weave together into huge "string-nets".


Light and matter unified

The pair ran simulations to see if their string-nets could give rise to conventional particles and fractionally charged quasi-particles. They did. They also found something even more surprising. As the net of strings vibrated, it produced a wave that behaved according to a very familiar set of laws - Maxwell's equations, which describe the behaviour of light. "A hundred and fifty years after Maxwell wrote them down, here they emerged by accident," says Wen.

That wasn't all. They found that their model naturally gave rise to other elementary particles, such as quarks, which make up protons and neutrons, and the particles responsible for some of the fundamental forces, such as gluons and the W and Z bosons.

From this, the researchers made another leap. Could the entire universe be modelled in a similar way? "Suddenly we realised, maybe the vacuum of our whole universe is a string-net liquid," says Wen. "It would provide a unified explanation of how both light and matter arise." So in their theory elementary particles are not the fundamental building blocks of matter. Instead, they emerge from the deeper structure of the non-empty vacuum of space-time.

"Wen and Levin's theory is really beautiful stuff," says Michael Freedman, 1986 winner of the Fields medal, the highest prize in mathematics, and a quantum computing specialist at Microsoft Station Q at the University of California, Santa Barbara. "I admire their approach, which is to be suspicious of anything - electrons, photons, Maxwell's equations - that everyone else accepts as fundamental."

Other theories that try to explain the same phenomena abound, of course; Wen and Levin realise that the burden of proof is on them. It may not be far off. Their model predicts specific arrangements of atoms in the new state of matter, which they dub the "string-net liquid", and Young Lee's group at MIT might have found it.

Lee was aware of Wen's work and decided to look for such materials.
Trawling through geology journals, his team spotted a candidate - a dark green crystal that geologists stumbled across in the mountains of Chile in 1972.
"The geologists named it after a mineralogist they really admired, Herbert Smith, labelled it and put it to one side," says Lee.
"They didn't realise the potential herbertsmithite would have for physicists years later."

Herbertsmithite (pictured)
is unusual because its electrons are arranged in a triangular lattice. Normally, electrons prefer to line up so that their spins are in the opposite direction to that of their immediate neighbours, but in a triangle this is impossible - there will always be neighbouring electrons spinning in the same direction. Wen and his colleagues propose that such a system would be a string-net liquid.

Although herbertsmithite
exists in nature,
the mineral contains impurities that disrupt any string-net signatures, says Lee.
So Lee's team made a pure sample in the lab.
"It was painstaking," says Lee. "It took us a full year to prepare it and another year to analyse it."

The team measured the degree of magnetisation in the material, in response to an applied magnetic field.
If herbertsmithite behaves like ordinary matter, they argue, then below about 26 °C the spins of its electrons should stop fluctuating -
a condition called magnetic order. But the team found no such transition, even down to just a fraction above absolute zero.

They measured other properties, too, such as heat conduction.
In conventional solids, the relationship between their temperature and their ability to conduct heat changes below a certain temperature,
because the structure of the material changes.
The team found no sign of such a transition in herbertsmithite,
suggesting that, unlike other types of matter, its lowest energy state has no discernible order.
"We could have created something in the lab that nobody has seen before," says Lee.

The team plans further tests to visualise the position of individual electrons, looking for long-range entanglement by firing neutrons at the crystal and observing how they scatter.
"We want to see the dynamics of the spin," says Lee. "If we tweak one [electron], we can see how the others are affected."

This intrigues Paul Fendley, a quantum computing specialist at the University of Virginia, Charlottesville (see "Silicon for a quantum age").
"It's reasonable to hope that we are seeing something exotic here," he says. "People are getting very excited about this."

Even if herbertsmithite is not a new state of matter,
we shouldn't be surprised if one is found soon, as many teams are hunting for them, says Freedman. He says people wrongly assume that particle accelerators are the only places where big discoveries about matter can be made. "Accelerators are just recreating conditions after the big bang and repeating experiments that are old hat for the universe," he says. "But in labs people are creating [conditions] that are colder than anywhere that has ever existed in the universe. We are bound to stumble on something the universe has never seen before."

[Trevor.]

Bump - and why not?

2008 - or 3 BC (before Cretin.)