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There are natural laws in the universe, put in place by the Divine Mind.
One of these is gravity. Humans are never aware of this force as a law until the break it.
Breaking of this law can bring painful results, even death of the body. A jump off a tall building is a good example of the swiftness of execution involved in breaking this law.
One could apply this principle to the first human expulsion from paradise. Each event arises from the previous event, and this is considered the natural consequence of following the pathway that leads from one stepping stone to the next.
Was this an expulsion or a consequence? Breaking a leg is the natural consequence of jumping off a building and breaking a law, but is not considered punishment in the same sense that some people mean punishment. Humans were intertwined with nature and followed the laws and were happy until they began to forget the laws and the fact they were not only bodies walking the earth. After they forgot, they began breaking law after law in ignorance.
The Divine Mind does not have to execute judgement and punishment, the laws work on an automatic basis, without exception, and if (a) happens, one can know that (b) will be the result.
Humans who forgot their divine connection could not live in paradise because it was only for those who loved it and cared about it. It would not thrive because humans no longer respected each other, nor themselves and so events began to go wrong for them as a natural result of breaking natural law. Nature became a resource to be exploited. The land was not sacred, nor the water, nor the earth, nor each other as slaughtering each other in wars began to be widespread. All of this builds up consequences, another name for which is karma.
Here is the enormous gap between thinking that God punishes directly and things occur of the enforcement of pre set laws. No one can defy gravity and not suffer. There is nothing of a personal nature to this.
The law of Returns always works perfectly. This is like the eternal wheel of justice and it always bring back according to what is given out. No human need ever be concerned that justice will not dispensed. There is no special privilege in this court as the wheel rotates until the human who put it in motion stops it.
No humans need be agents for laws, which have always been in existence and always will be in existence. Those who have set themselves up as judges have not been elected by Divine Mind. They have volunteered due to narrow thinking that they are set apart as special. Every human is special because every humans is part of the Mind, and Divine Mind did not set up police to tell others not to defy laws.
There will be many who continue to see consequences as punishment. The earth is in peril because humanity has strayed from their close association with nature and has broken many of the laws put in place and now are suffering the consequences. They need only to alter their path to change the consequences. If one owns a food producing service and knowlingly offers food to others which does damage to the body, this has consequences.
If one harms any part of the natural world there are consequences. If one hates another person there are consequences. To every act there are consequences. This is the law. Every thought and every action has recompense.
Consequences are just like fruit off a tree. A good thought, a kind word, producing good healthy food, honest dealings, being true to ones word all have positive returns. This is the law.
Punishment or reward is built in to the creation.
Those who say they love God and yet proclaim punishment to those disagreeing with their interpretation of God will find that this attitude itself has consequences. Hoping or wishing another gets punished will have its own consequences. There is one scripture which very clearly says this in the Bible that the judgement you hand out is the one you will get back.
This is most sobering thought, if one thinks of the fact that every word, thought uttered, carries with it consequences. If one heaps judgement on the head of another, describing horrible things he envisions in his dark mind that God will do, then that one has by these very words, guarantees that they will have equality of return on their hopes. Thus all he wishes for others will come back and happen to him.
This is the law.
Out of your own mouth you will bless or condemn yourself.
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Many Happy Returns (The Law Returns)
Started by Tree Hugger, Jul 20 2005 07:50 PM
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Posted 21 July 2005 - 02:34 AM
Hello, Tree Hugger! 
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| One could apply this principle to the first human expulsion from paradise. Each event arises from the previous event, and this is considered the natural consequence of following the pathway that leads from one stepping stone to the next. |
Exactly. Through Adam, sin entered into the world. It is the concept of original sin or the fall, or as you state, the expulsion from paradise. The natural consequence of this is death. It is not the judgment of the Divine, but the consequence of human action. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of the Divine Mind.
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| The Divine Mind does not have to execute judgement and punishment, the laws work on an automatic basis, without exception, and if (a) happens, one can know that (b) will be the result. |
I cannot disagree here either. It is not the judgment of the Divine Mind, but the consequence of human action. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of the Divine Mind. And the law requires that the debt be paid. For the wages of sin is death. Here is the answer why it was necessary for the Divine Mind to incarnate and to suffer and die on the cross. The Divine Mind paid the debt and took away the sin of the world. No human action could have satisfied the law of karma which required death. The Divine Mind fulfilled that law and provided salvation for whosoever will, not through the actions of humans, but by the grace of the Divine Mind.
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| There is no special privilege in this court as the wheel rotates until the human who put it in motion stops it. |
I agree that no human stands in any special privilege with respect to the law. However, no human action could ever pay the debt due under the law. Only the Divine Mind, having personally paid the debt in place of humans, could have taken away the sin of the world. It was not any human, but the Divine Mind incarnate, that paid the price in full.
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