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Posted 21 January 2012 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE (Clear Eyes @ Jan 21 2012, 01:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I read the charge against him that carried many years was abandoning the ship before all passengers were off.

I don't think he murdered those people, it wasn't his intention that anyone should die, at least I don't think so -

He was showing off doing what he had done several times before and was obviously NOT paying attention that caused everything that followed.

That's manslaughter, not murder.



He's still worse than a cockroach.

When you put your own cock-waving above people's lives.........



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Posted 21 January 2012 - 01:41 PM


I was not defending him just saying I don't think he could be charged with murder.

He's a lying pos that will probably off himself because that's what cowards do.


I'm happy I'm not judgmental like all you smug, superficial idiots.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:02 PM

QUOTE (Clear Eyes @ Jan 21 2012, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was not defending him just saying I don't think he could be charged with murder.

He's a lying pos that will probably off himself because that's what cowards do.



Nope, that type is even too chicken to do that.

He'd rather rot in prison. And he will.


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Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:21 PM

In the Concordia case, the laws of Italy also apply. Schettino may face charges including manslaughter, shipwreck and abandoning a ship when passengers were still on board, chief prosecutor Francesco Verusio said. Abandoning ship is a maritime crime that has been on the books for centuries in Spain, Greece and Italy, according to Alessandra Batassa, a lawyer in Rome, although many other countries have long abandoned it.

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-01-17/travel/...ps?_s=PM:TRAVEL




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Cowardice at sea is no crime -- at least in the U.S.

In the United States, the rule that a captain should be the last to leave a distressed ship is not a criminal offense. The Westlaw online legal research service shows the phrase "abandon ship" turned up 618 decisions but none addressed a captain's decision to leave a ship before his passengers.

The closest U.S. law that appears to take on the act of leaving a ship before passengers and crew is...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/20/...E80J1R020120120

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:29 PM

Hmmmm



Prosecutors, who accuse Capt Francesco Schettino of abandoning his ship and causing a shipwreck, specifically asked the navy and coast guard frogmen who are searching the wreck to find the safe in the captain's cabin. They believe it may contain documents or other evidence which could help their investigation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...id-captain.html

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:42 PM

I read that he had emptied the safe, and taken its contents ashore with him after he "fell" into the life boat.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 03:21 AM

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 03:31 AM

Costa Cruises could face criminal charges


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The events aboard the Costa Concordia on January 13 raise questions not just about Captain Francesco Schettino’s actions, but also about whether the company itself could face any criminal allegations.
Italian law 231, enacted in 2001, introduced the principle that corporations can receive administrative sanctions for crimes committed by employees within the scope of their employment.


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Posted 22 January 2012 - 06:54 AM

I put forth the proposition that Schettino fucked up in almost every way possible.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 11:02 AM

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Costa Cruises could face criminal charges


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The events aboard the Costa Concordia on January 13 raise questions not just about Captain Francesco Schettino’s actions, but also about whether the company itself could face any criminal allegations.
Italian law 231, enacted in 2001, introduced the principle that corporations can receive administrative sanctions for crimes committed by employees within the scope of their employment.


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I do not agree with the law. If the company had clear policies in place and the captain refused to follow them, why should they be held liable?
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank...... give a man a bank and he can rob the world.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 11:06 AM

QUOTE (sarafina @ Jan 22 2012, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I do not agree with the law. If the company had clear policies in place and the captain refused to follow them, why should they be held liable?



Because they hired him and he was their employee.


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Posted 22 January 2012 - 12:17 PM

Yep.

They needed a big bumper sticker 'If you see me driving like shit call 1-800-Show-Off' on the back of the Concordia.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 12:33 PM

Too late now, it would be under the water.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 01:12 PM

QUOTE (*Fluffy the Cat* @ Jan 22 2012, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (sarafina @ Jan 22 2012, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I do not agree with the law. If the company had clear policies in place and the captain refused to follow them, why should they be held liable?



Because they hired him and he was their employee.


I do not agree that a company should be held liable for an employee breaking the company rules. They have no control over that - all they can do is put rules in place and enforce them by disciplining/firing anyone who breaks them. That is not what lawyers want you to believe but then I think lawyers have done almost as much to fuck up our society as banksters.

Now if Carnival knew he was breaking the rules and did nothing to discipline him then they are liable. And it is quite possible that may be the case and it will probably come out in the trials unless everyone settles out of court.



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Posted 23 January 2012 - 02:49 AM

Costa Concordia: the inside story of the night of Friday, January 13
How some passengers and crew escaped the stricken cruise ship on the fateful night of January 13 – and how some were left behind.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...January-13.html